Comic 62 - Old Gods vs. Puppies

14th Jan 2012, 4:32 PM
Old Gods vs. Puppies
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Clef 14th Jan 2012, 4:55 PM edit delete
My week of free game time expired, and was as you guys said- I was able to clear all the new content in that week. If I resubscribed, there would be nothing to look forward to except maybe attempting harder difficulties of the same raids. Asides from that, nothing else to do except grind daily quests and valor points in the 5-mans. Ran in some pug in vent a few times and sounded like I was in an elementary school classroom. Got some random guild invites by level 1 guilds that had ridiculously immature names that I had too much self respect to ever have tagged under my character name.

It was as I suspected. The social/immersion aspect of that game is just dead. All about grinds now. Damn, I miss the old WoW...


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Srentho 14th Jan 2012, 5:31 PM edit delete reply
Totally agreeing with you about the social aspect. It is no longer mmo and rpg players that are playing World of Warcraft. It the same type of immature children that was playing CounterStrike in the old days.

Everything is so simple and stupid, you don't even have to read quest descriptions any more, no-one stops to read the books lying around. The class aspect is broken, there are no longer any real counter-classes. Everything has to be so god dam equal and balanced if else they cry "Nerf Nerf Nerf". And I bet half of the people don't even know what that world means or how it became so popular.

Still it might be that we that started back when the game came out have gotten older ourself.
Daisybelle 14th Jan 2012, 8:59 PM edit delete reply
I am so glad to find that other people agree with me on that. When I said on my guild forum that WoW had become tailored to immature 10 year olds and there was no longer any challenge, all they replied were things like "It's easier to level up and you're complaining?"

I'm trying to get back onto WoW (the patches are using up all my monthly quota) but I'm expecting my experience to be the same as Clef's. The immaturity was already bad enough *before* Cata.
omegadeadpool 14th Jan 2012, 5:46 PM edit delete reply
Honestly, you go in content with negativity, you'll have a negative experience. I've recently started a new guild on the Ghostlands US server and have been having a blast with helping people and having fun. the social aspect of the game can be fun, but if you don't want to look beyond trade chat for it, there's nothing that can be done for that.
Sesshy (Muradin) 14th Jan 2012, 7:32 PM edit delete reply
Yeah I agree with ya on the total lack of maturity in WoW now. And the repetitious grind is nonsense. An account full of 85's with nothing but the same thing over and over is BS. It got to the point in my WoW crack addiction where all I did was logg in and stare at the screen and wonder what to do. When my sub ran out due to lack of funds I was forced to look elsewhere for my mmo fix. DCU online keeps me going. F2P is a bonus, plus it has so many more unique aspects to character building. You can end up with 5 toons all with the same base abilities and completely different builds. Plus I got my new Sims3 Pets xpac (call me nerdy ok) so that fills some of the screen staring gap. Might give MOP a trial when it comes out, but if it doesn't impress and bring back the challenge that I loved with WoW, then it will be officially time to sell off all my gear and give away all the profits to a starving newbie.
Daisybelle 14th Jan 2012, 9:04 PM edit delete reply
(Looks like I'm the first one to comment on the actual episode).

Kleeyo is surprisingly inventive and adaptable. I wouldn't have expected someone as bold as her to take refuge among the children (although it's similar to what Captain Pickard of the Enterprise did when a teleporter accident turned him into a child). It's also very amusing indeed to see all those children of different factions uniting due to their outrage at animal cruelty.

(Although I have a bad feeling that Sara is going to mess this up somehow)
Amaxe 15th Jan 2012, 4:21 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, I agree with the issues of social. I jumped ship for TOR, and while there are some clowns there, in general people tend to be more social.

In the past I used to feel the craving to go back to WoW every time I quit. No longer. It just has nothing more to offer me.
Karl 15th Jan 2012, 5:38 AM edit delete reply
I totally agree with the grind and social aspect. And just a warning, it's going to get worse. Bliz has already stated that their going to nerf the encounters in the next expansion so that raids are "fun" again. Standing there casting spells without movement is now officially more fun then actually thinking and dealing with actual mechanics. I dream of the day when Bliz comes out with an encounter that has a pool of say 200 abilities and just uses them at random so people actually have to think. There's my self-righteous rant for the day

Also, awesome comic this week, can't wait to see where this story line ends up.
Sindella 15th Jan 2012, 8:09 PM edit delete reply
This just reminded me of the episode of Community where they do an anti drug play for children.
Jeknar 16th Jan 2012, 3:58 PM edit delete reply
And after the super epic facepalm of fail, Tirion see a light in the end of tunnel... Let's just hope that "The destroyer" doesn't destroy that too (right Sara?).

Now, let's talk about the game: I've played this since 1.7 with a small downtime during WotLK, and this thing is get easier every damn expac that come out. Although the new storylines are good, they do not incentivate people on reading the quest since the map show where your objective is. Guilds are nothing more than a bunch of extra skills you'll get (the guild perks) as you no longer need to look for people on the Looking For Group Channel (Dungeon and Raid finder will find people for you). Also as you stated some weeks ago, ever since the Battlegroups formed, there is no longer rivalrity between factions, as you most likely never going to see again "that goddamn rogue that farmed you on Warsong Gulch Graveyard".

I still play because i have my raid group (also my RL friends) to try advance on progression. Even though we are not hardcore. I also do some pvp for fun, but that still no better than it was so many years ago. I'd return to Vanilla or TBC if i could, but we all have to play on Cataclysm so, here we are, unhappy, bored, and in some cases, quitting.
Clef 16th Jan 2012, 4:52 PM edit delete reply
Looks like you still got that social reason to play, which is the strongest reason to do so. I envy you on that one. The last of my long-time in-game and RL friends left WoW in the first year of WotLK.

If they ever made a vanilla server, honest to goodness I would be the first to sign up.
Jeknar 17th Jan 2012, 1:21 PM edit delete reply
Well, my old raid group is long dead... I think only 2 of us (down from 25) still play, and the other one because a hardcore raider (which is way ahead of what i do on the game).
The group i play now is the group that i joined after my downtime in WotLK (i left after Naxx and came back only at ICC).
I'm not optimisc, but if we go further than the trade we can find nice people. Or maybe it's because of my country's recently formed realms (Yeah, i'm Brazillian) and a lot of people are looking desperately for groups to join.
Cataclysm won't last much longer... And i'm sure that if MoP mess more with the game, they will lose a lot more of subscribers than they lost on Cataclysm. I hope they keep that in mind. If not, Diablo III is comming soon...
Jeknar 17th Jan 2012, 1:25 PM edit delete reply
On the first line where it read "because", i meant "became".

And btw... I like how quick Sara changed to pvp gear after sara expired (last pannel). Equipment Manager FTW!
Clef 17th Jan 2012, 3:35 PM edit delete reply
Heck yeah. Beats drawing that deathwing outfit for the rest of the story, heh.
Aramir 17th Jan 2012, 8:36 AM edit delete reply
heh "the old god is hurting the puppy" "BOOOOOOOO" thats pretty good. dang sara seems kinda pissed in those last couple panels though. Can't really blame her sap does suck. though to be fair as a human paladin she's got like 4-5 different ways to get out of it.
Nikolai 17th Jan 2012, 11:52 AM edit delete reply
I played wow from vanilla to the fall of Arthas. And it went downhill for every god damn patch there is - easier bosses, easier leveling, easier grind (but unlimited possibilities as new patch = new tiers).
And in the same time nerfing anything that's fun - wall climbing and thus exploring (flying mounts really killed that), removing random encounters with adding queue from towns, removing ganks with flying mounts, outdoor pvp was killed.

Nowadays its just a huge grind and no one exits town to do shit. You can queue to almost anything from anywhere.
If there is fun in it, but its not planned from wow designers - it gets nerfed.
That's why i play eve - there no one tells me how to have fun. Let alone tell me what i should do. Sandbox approach for the win :)
Ranor Brightmane 17th Jan 2012, 5:27 PM edit delete reply
If you want more social stuff, could try Roleplaying on WoW. As a tendency I find RP guilds to be much more social than social guilds (How Ironic) and because of RP I'm still playing WoW.
Clef 19th Jan 2012, 6:32 AM edit delete reply
That's still one thing I've never tried. You are no the first person to say that here, so I probably should give it a shot if I'm back on a live server sometime.
Bloodraptor(Echo Isles) 18th Jan 2012, 4:36 AM edit delete reply
honestly I dont really feel compelled to play all that often, now it's just hop on to see if anyone in my guild is on, and thanks to lacking interest, most of my guildies have bailed again... it's like the burning crusade coup all over again! good people join other guilds and I'm left holding the bag when these people promised never to leave!

I just dont know what I'll do now, if I go back to console gaming I lose the social aspect, if I stick to WoW I might yield to old addictions for the social aspect. it's so hard to choose...
Clef 18th Jan 2012, 7:08 PM edit delete reply
As far as consoles go, Xbox Live has basically a realID feature so you can have friends lists and such, so there's still some social aspect to console gaming...its just most console games are competitive in nature, which tend to make more enemies then friends, heh... Some good co-op games out there, though (if that's more your thing), if you look for them.

One of the perks for being in guilds in WoW was to form groups and raids easier. Now with dungeon and raid finder that's pretty much null and don' even have to be in a guild to see all the game's content, which I'd imagine makes keeping one together a lot harder then in the old days. Now, forming a 5 man guild dungeon run takes more time and effort to assemble then to simply click "find group" in the dungeon finder and jumping right into a dungeon. I used to log in, find 10 guildies online each in 10 different pugs...not event attempting to run any as a guild., how the game has changed so much...
GeodesicDragon 18th Jan 2012, 11:39 AM edit delete reply
I'm quitting as well. Mostly because I can't seem to get into end game content ("LOL UR GEAR SUX GET MORE EPIX NOOB"), but also because of the huge number of immature people I meet. Like the person who insulted me, my family and my friends simply because I wouldn't duel his Level 20 with my 85 (he challenged me).

I've heard that Old Republic has a much better social aspect, so when I get some spare cash, I'm giving it a try.

I started playing just after TBC came out, but I agree with those of you who'd like a vanilla server. I'd sign up for one.
applejak the bounty hunte 20th Jan 2012, 4:35 AM edit delete reply
yeah thats why i quit wow.....
but STAR WARS THE OLD REPUBLIC you have to find a group yourself like in old wow, and there is a storyline, oh and your companions farm for you they just go away for 3-30min and come back with materials(does cost a few credits) and a great story line......

on the other hand mists of pandara has this 'clean slate appeal unlike other expansons"

oh and since this is my first comment i like to say this webcomic is totaly ROFLMAO!!!!! keep up the good work
Clef 20th Jan 2012, 5:58 AM edit delete reply

"Clean slate appeal" huh? Wonder what they mean by that?
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