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Comic 76 - Art test 3: Alt-oholic

21st Apr 2012, 6:23 PM
Art test 3: Alt-oholic
Average Rating: 5 (1 votes)
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Clef 21st Apr 2012, 6:23 PM edit delete
Clef
I figured I would try to do a pic with all my characters, even including my (future) Pandaran monk, but without the trouble of trying to draw all that really detailed armor for each :p

Alt-aholicism really is a disease...I was hoping to eventually roll a Pandaran druid, but then I hear there were not going to be any. I mean....what!? How can a bear not turn into...well....a BEAR?

Then I heard they can be death knights. Maybe a lore nerd can correct me if I'm wrong here, but all death knights received their power directly from the Lich King. With the LK being dead for almost 2 years now, and the Pandarans were completely isolated during the scourge conflict, how does that work out? That is, unless Bolvar is currently actively recruiting. Might be time to go back to ICC and clean house again.

Then I heard they can be rogues....I mean WHAT!? They're big, they're borderline obese, they're conspicuous all to hell, and perpetually drunk! Not quite fitting race for a class that's supposed to blend in with the shadows...

Exit question: Is there any particular race/class combo that doesn't exist that you wish you had?

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SlopDoggy 21st Apr 2012, 6:29 PM edit delete reply
0_e *blood erupts from my nose and I fly backwards, landing in a heap*
brefin 21st Apr 2012, 6:58 PM edit delete reply
From my understanding, no, the Pandarian cannot be Death Knights.

As far as rogues go, though, it makes a kind of sense in that rogues are the closest thing to ninjas in the game and the Pandarians are already martial artists.

But yeah, unless they changed something... No Pandarian DKs.
TheMjohann 21st Apr 2012, 7:27 PM edit delete reply
As far i can tell in Beta they can be DK's.
So unless that change its basicly Blizz giving its lore the middle finger.
Agein.
Dont get me started on vampire bloodelves...
Clef 21st Apr 2012, 8:24 PM edit delete reply
Clef
Vampire belfs? Lemme guess, they're going to have white faces and oily black hair, with their leader named "Cullen?"
TheMjohann 22nd Apr 2012, 4:30 AM edit delete reply
Nah, i mean the Darkfallen or San'layn or whatever they were called.
Up to Wrath Blizz stated that there was NO vampires in Wow lore.
Until they desided to make them for...some reason.
brefin 21st Apr 2012, 10:26 PM edit delete reply
I have a beta key (one year contract opt in) and I'm looking at the create-a-character screen right now... no Pandaren DK.
TheMjohann 22nd Apr 2012, 4:34 AM edit delete reply
Well when i look at it it says "Needs Wrath and a char at lvl 55"
It dosent say "You need to pick another race to play this class" like it would with classes that arnt alowed for the class.
Granted i still cant make one and i do have a 67 but until i see the need another race message i still think Blizz might let them be DK's.
Ash 22nd Apr 2012, 6:57 AM edit delete reply
You also have to keep in mind that it is in fact a beta, and something like that isn't exactly a high priority. It will be fixed before release I'm sure, and if I remember correctly from Blizzcon they specifically said that the Pandaren can't be DKs.
TheMjohann 22nd Apr 2012, 1:33 PM edit delete reply
That -is- true. But this is also Blizz.
I have no doubt that Panda DK's will be made once enough people QQ enough.
I mean just look at what they have done before to silence the crybabies.
But we will find out when the Beta goes live.
And hope for the best. ^_^
Guest 22nd Apr 2012, 8:25 PM edit delete reply
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mists-of-pandaria/pandaren/

As you can see Death Knight is not found under the little "available classes" window.

And actually I've seen very little complains about Pandaren not being able to be DKs. Perhaps, people: 1) Don't want a repeat of the whole, "Worgen can be DKs, and Blizzard having to come up with some last minute lore because people lorenerds couldn't accept 'for the sake of gameplay' as a reason," again. 2) Consider the Pandaren's ability to choose to be either Horde or Alliance to be a fair trade off.
brefin 21st Apr 2012, 7:04 PM edit delete reply
Also... Nice work with the, uh... outfits these nice girls are wearing. Especially love the fact that Kleeyo looks so embarrassed.
Vaniya 21st Apr 2012, 7:25 PM edit delete reply
Couldn't help but notice it, but the color of the bikini goes with the class color, right? :D Ps, love your artwork and comics!
Clef 21st Apr 2012, 8:24 PM edit delete reply
Clef
Yup :)
Essix 22nd Apr 2012, 9:32 AM edit delete reply
So:

Draenei - Hunter
Dwarf - Death Knight
Goblin - Warlock
Worgen - Mage
Pandaren - Monk

Correct? I left out Sara & Kleeyo because we all know which classes they belong to. :P
Low 21st Apr 2012, 8:31 PM edit delete reply
Low
Whoa awesome work here.
Clef 21st Apr 2012, 8:39 PM edit delete reply
Clef
Thanks! Next I need to learn how to draw backgrounds like you can >_>
Brucin 21st Apr 2012, 8:39 PM edit delete reply
Pandaren cannot be DKs, and Sara *heart*
Clef 21st Apr 2012, 8:54 PM edit delete reply
Clef
That's good to know. I just watched videos of the beta test and they seemed to exist there...
omegadeadpool 21st Apr 2012, 8:57 PM edit delete reply
I can confirm that Pandaren CANNOT be DK's, they don't have the option.
Wasabi 21st Apr 2012, 11:28 PM edit delete reply
Well the fact that there was Death Knight Worgen and Goblin is because there has been some of those where the Lich King recruitted, more or less the now Death Knight Goblin and Worgen were prob dead before being raised to serve him. The only Pandarian i can think of that ever walked in the game were Chen Stormsnout.
Thisguy 22nd Apr 2012, 1:19 AM edit delete reply
Theoretically, while pandaren are rare, it is not impossible that one was walking around when LK was recruiting,but it would be an incredibly rare occurance, Such as with a DK worgen, or goblin, or, well even dranie, they were around, and it even tells, in one of the early DK quests, how it happened, when you have to kill another of your race.

But with the pandaren, while not impossible that the LK could have snatched one off their island, or found one of the ones who was walking around, it would be rare. Course, with blizz, lorewise, it only acts as if there is only about a dozen or so 'players' out there, which is unrealistic compared to the number of DKS alreday out there. Anyway, i'm suer whatever happens, blizz will give us some sort of explanation as to why it is.

Anyway, to the comic, great fanservice XD
Seph 22nd Apr 2012, 2:36 AM edit delete reply
I'mm not an Alt-oholic! Shure I make alot of Altsh, but everyone Doeshh! Doeshn't make me an addict! Aww...this alt has run dry...now i need to get another one.(Hic)

Yeah, I'm an Alt-oholic myself. I have around 10 alts last time i checked, and I only got one character past lvl 60 content and up to lvl 85. Also, I recognize all the girls from the play, and i'm assuming the worgan is the scarlet mage. But, Who is the goblin, and will we see her in future comics?

Also, in regards to the exit question:

Worgan Paladins

It's not that revolutionary of an idea! It makes sense and everything(more sense than Worgan druids)! And i feel that the Draenei should've gotten a new class for cataclysm (the idea i had was, instead of worgan Druids, we could give the dreanei the druids and the paladins to the worgan).

....I really wanted that worgan paladin....
Clef 23rd Apr 2012, 1:53 AM edit delete reply
Clef
The goblin was originally a bank alt, but boosted her to 80 with a scroll of resurrection reward.
Daisybelle 22nd Apr 2012, 2:46 AM edit delete reply
Daisybelle
Outstanding artwork Clef! You've really got a knack for the skin tones and textures.

Q: Why does Kleeyo look so sad?
SlopDoggy 22nd Apr 2012, 4:25 AM edit delete reply
She's embarrassed.
Guest 22nd Apr 2012, 7:04 AM edit delete reply
Ah! :)

Well as Kissless (from Wow Eh webcomic) said "It's only what her Earthmother gave her." ;)
Temperjoke 22nd Apr 2012, 4:43 AM edit delete reply
....so many beauties...*passes out from the massive flow in blood from the brain in his head to his other brain*
The Dwarven Dude 22nd Apr 2012, 1:25 PM edit delete reply
Holy Mother of Bra! O_O

Thats simply outstanding! Y'know that I do always voluntarily fanboi you, Clef, but that here is really one of your best.

Perfect expressions, "real" and fitting proportions, nice playing with the angles, eyes are focussing well (just the goblinas right eye seems a bit long to me) and there is no one looking better then the others (except sexy Sara). ;)

You even managed the Achievment-worthy task of making a dwarven female look nice between a foxy worgen-lady and a Draenei chick.

And regarding your exit question... in my humble opinion there are already far too many possible combinations. Hell yes, make the game more accessible to a wide array of people, but I, speaking as a veteran from the First War, do miss the good times when each faction had its own "speciality" ans "soul" like Paladin at the Blues' side and Shaman for the Horde. Now it's just a stupid mix-up with no real differences than the music and architecture. Blast, I do miss the classic times -,-
Halbor 22nd Apr 2012, 2:42 PM edit delete reply
Really nicely drawn and yeah I know all about Altoholism, one of my previous guilds had a sub-guild called "Altoholics Anonymous" that had a much larger membership than our main guild.

As for the pandaren rogues comment, shouldn't that apply to Dwarves as well, sure they're short, but also likely borderline obese for their height and probably just as drunk if not more-so than the pandas;)
Clef 22nd Apr 2012, 4:18 PM edit delete reply
Clef
They're not fat, just stout. Plus, they DO stand below eye level, which is very important for not being noticed!
Kaiser 22nd Apr 2012, 3:16 PM edit delete reply
Gotta say Clef, you've only been getting better at drawing this comic since you started (but even then at the beginning it was already well drawn).

I've also been suffering from altoholism recently...WoW has just gotten extremely boring...I'd probably quit if a new xpac wasn't on the way or if my guild disbanded.

Wish they had thrown in an undead druid, flipped my burger when I heard a rumor about it...then wept a waterfall when it didn't happen ><.

Oh, and quite possibly the best picture you've drawn so far xD
Clef 22nd Apr 2012, 4:19 PM edit delete reply
Clef
An Undead druid would be awesome. A zombie cat and zombie bear model, ect. Maybe a skeletal raven....
Druds the druid 22nd Apr 2012, 3:39 PM edit delete reply
Well i have alot of alts but i mostly play my main

and i wish there where tauren mages!
Lore explation:
Druds the druid 22nd Apr 2012, 3:41 PM edit delete reply
Ok tauren mage lore

they get there acrance power from the stars just like a balence druid!

When you relally think about it a. Araneahe is simular to s balance druid

also........................ Anone notice the humans have some of the higgest chests ingame?
Lycanthrope 22nd Apr 2012, 6:43 PM edit delete reply
I like your female worgen much more than the in-game model. The hot-fix Blizz needs to run before Mists is the one that gives them a realistic expression and not a perma-snarl. Though, with the existence of worgen males, it does give them an excuse for it.

Race-Class I *really* want to see? Tauren Rogue. Stop looking at me in that tone of voice. My Tauren DK makes no more noise walking/running than my gnome mage. If big undead cheesecake can be that quiet, then a trained assassin cheesecake can be even more quiet. Beefsteak, I meant beefsteak. Also, I wanna see some of those perfectly balanced pandaran corrupted into warlocks. Everyone does, admit it.

Finally, this is beautiful work again. You keep getting better. And glad to see the phrase "future pandaran", so the saga may continue into the mists, yes?
Phboy 22nd Apr 2012, 7:15 PM edit delete reply
.... T_T
DcSensai 23rd Apr 2012, 1:13 AM edit delete reply
Which side is your pandaren going to be alliance or horde.
Clef 23rd Apr 2012, 1:54 AM edit delete reply
Clef
Probably Horde, just to balance things out a bit. Already have two tank-capable toons on Alliance. None on Horde.
Nicolas 23rd Apr 2012, 1:41 AM edit delete reply
It would be interesting for undead to be pallys. Lore-wise, many Knights of the Silver Hand died during Lordaerons fall, and since undead priests can use the Light, why not pallys? Of course, using Exorscism doesnt guarantee that the forsaken won't turn to dust XD
You should do a comic experimenting with class and race mixups. Like the draenei, they're quite proficient at using magic, so why not make them warlocks? Result: Insane draenei: BOW DOWN TO THE MIGHT OF THE BURNING LEGION!
Daisybelle 23rd Apr 2012, 3:56 AM edit delete reply
Daisybelle
Clef, I realise this is a bit of a non-sequitur, but it's a quesiton I've just thought of. Where did Talia learn to speak Common? Kleeyo wouldn't have known any Common at the point where she entrusted Talia to The Earthen Ring, and Talia wouldn't have learned Common from them. She didn't seem to have any difficulty understanding Sara or any of the Scarlet Crusaide, unless they were all speaking Taurahe (maybe Sara had improved her language skill since that gaffe in episode #1?).
Clef 23rd Apr 2012, 4:31 AM edit delete reply
Clef
That'll probably get cleared up in about...4 more comics or so.
Daisybelle 23rd Apr 2012, 11:42 AM edit delete reply
Daisybelle
Ah... it's an "I'll explan later" thing, eh? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Do-wDPoC6GM#t=547s
Arolina 23rd Apr 2012, 11:10 AM edit delete reply
0.0 Er... Is it wrong for a girl's nose to be bleeding to this? >.>
Grimnosh 23rd Apr 2012, 1:22 PM edit delete reply
I'd enjoy seeing a Gnome Druid Kitten/Cub form GO!

I'd also like to have Forsaken druids, lots of fun for PvP with Will of the Forsaken combined with druid shifting.
GeodesicDragon 23rd Apr 2012, 1:54 PM edit delete reply
I'm no furry, but even I have to admit that worgen looks cute.
DaveL 23rd Apr 2012, 5:35 PM edit delete reply
I cant to seem to find Tallia in there :P


anyway, they┬┤re awesome, oh well these furry ones imo most ;)
Clef 23rd Apr 2012, 7:13 PM edit delete reply
Clef
Thanks!

Heh, I think there are laws about putting children in pics like this. Besides, this is strictly of my playable characters.
isaac 23rd Apr 2012, 6:58 PM edit delete reply
Draenei are sexy.....yes

So ur pandaren alli or horde?
Bloodraptor(Echo Isles) 23rd Apr 2012, 7:02 PM edit delete reply
If Pandaren can be Death Knights, I can understand it from Arthas maybe stumbleing on some during the third war(possible multi-player match references?), where Pandaren were a mercenary unit like the Goblin shredders I think.

still, Pandaren druids isnt something I'd expect. I mean, think how redundant that would be, you're a humanoid race of bear-like people, turning into a bear. and if I'm not mistaken, pandas are marsupials really.

still, I'll credit you on your artwork, very nicely done. ^_^

I can vouch for Pandaren rogues though, since they're a martial arts themed race.

too bad blizz wont put the ban hammer on gnomes rolling as melee classes though... it's a required measure to snuff out the plague of gnome pride.
Clef 23rd Apr 2012, 7:19 PM edit delete reply
Clef
Kung Fu panda was also martial arts based, but was still a bull in a china shop when it came to stealth.
Daisybelle 24th Apr 2012, 2:28 AM edit delete reply
Daisybelle
Looking at all the assembled women has made me realise something. I've never seen a female gnoll. (NOT that I'm saying a gnoll would look good in a bathing suit, male *OR* female!) Or maybe it's just that the gnoll mobs we fight are supposed to be both male and female but there's no disernable difference?
Clef 24th Apr 2012, 2:36 AM edit delete reply
Clef
I think we HAVE seen them. They're just humanoid canines, and like other canines, you can't tell the difference between the two genders except for the scent of their ass.
Daisybelle 25th Apr 2012, 1:38 PM edit delete reply
Daisybelle
Okaaayyy... Maybe I do want to see a gnoll in a bathing suit after all - anything would be better than the mental image I've just had.
TheMjohann 27th Apr 2012, 1:32 AM edit delete reply
Ogre in bathingsuit. ...I just scared myself.
TheMjohann 27th Apr 2012, 1:32 AM edit delete reply
Ogre in bathingsuit. ...I just scared myself.
Amethyst 24th Apr 2012, 4:20 AM edit delete reply
I'm still waiting for draenei druids. I was really hoping we'd get them for cata but no luck. Meh.
Selthius 24th Apr 2012, 4:48 AM edit delete reply
Make it happen clef!
also gnome hunters...
maybe goblins pallies and druids
also i concurr with other statements abotu blood loss >_>
what about belf druids?
Daisybelle 25th Apr 2012, 1:35 PM edit delete reply
Daisybelle
Well here's what happens when Gnomes try to be druids LOL - http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lekyd8J2S21qf9nbuo1_1280.jpg
brefin 24th Apr 2012, 1:53 PM edit delete reply
I want forsaken druids. I mean, come on! Zombie Kitty form!
Heimdallw32 24th Apr 2012, 7:41 PM edit delete reply
Nice work on the facial expressions. I was wondering though, is it just me or is Jo...attacking? It kind of looks like she's about to tackle Kleeyo. xD
Guest 24th Apr 2012, 8:49 PM edit delete reply
I think undead pally is missing. If undead are supposed to be humans that are foresaken then whatever class a human can be the undead should be able to be with that reasoning. And don't say because pallys are holy magic users because there are undead priest and blizz doesnt make undead priest just be dark priest they can be holy so that argument doesnt float.
George 27th Apr 2012, 1:58 PM edit delete reply
The explanation I heard goes like this: Undead priests are extreme masochists with incredible willpower who can overcome the fact that the Light literally burns undead. Undead characters are more "cauterized" than "healed" by any Light-based class. Also, most Forsaken priests are canonically supposed to be primarily shadow (which doesn't burn for obvious reasons). Pallies are constantly filled with the Light and use even more of it than priests (even discounting Shadow spec), so Forsaken simply can't manage being paladins.

And yes, I know the Argent Crusade has Forsaken. They might be exceptions, but unlike priests, they probably have to be physically and/or mentally stronger than PCs are allowed to be.
Ruri 25th Apr 2012, 12:45 PM edit delete reply
Really nice artwork Clef, although I thought Jyo preferred the "natural bounce" as in http://sarakleeyo.webcomic.ws/comics/17 you may need to redraw Jyo Clef ^_-
Zulmaigu 26th Apr 2012, 6:52 AM edit delete reply
Troll paladins. That would be awesome.
Bloodraptor(Echo Isles) 27th Apr 2012, 5:02 AM edit delete reply
I still think Blizzard should have banned gnomes from melee classes, since gnomes are not the least bit intimidating, or even remotely cool.

I mean, gnomes are a JOKE. pink mohawks? stubby limbs? they're essentially prey on the foodchain of Azeroth! they have all the physiological flaws that dictate to any intelligent mind "NOT ALLOWED TO MELEE!". someone in Blizzard's staff team was baked out of their mind when gnomes were given melee options, and someone must have had a lobotomy to allow gnomes to roll as Death Knights when Wrath was in the works!

still, Blood Elves would be great as druids and Shaman(imagine solid gold falcon statues with elemental glowing eyes, the auras looking like a phoenix). imagine how hilarious it would be for a blood Elf to thunderpunt a gnome off a cliff! XD I'd die laughing!

I think worgen would have been better off as the 4th pick for Alliance Monks, not gnomes. I mean, if worgen were given the option to be monks, I'd delete my Worgen warrior and remake him as a monk!
Doug 27th Apr 2012, 6:29 AM edit delete reply
The concept of a gnome monk is pretty weak. They have pathetic reach, even with a weapon, so technically anyone normal sized could always hit them in combat while staying out of their reach. Makes much more sense for them to use magics, where reach is irrelevant.

I honestly cant concieve of either goblins or gnomes wasting their time learning to be monks because of this. BUT,.. its a game and doesnt have to make any sense.
Doug 27th Apr 2012, 6:30 AM edit delete reply
The concept of a gnome monk is pretty weak. They have pathetic reach, even with a weapon, so technically anyone normal sized could always hit them in combat while staying out of their reach. Makes much more sense for them to use magics, where reach is irrelevant.

I honestly cant concieve of either goblins or gnomes wasting their time learning to be monks because of this. BUT,.. its a game and doesnt have to make any sense.
Doug 27th Apr 2012, 5:11 AM edit delete reply
Blizz's lore is so patch-work quilted, why not just let Any race be ANY class? Seriously. That would make way more sense than 90% of the gameplay-convenient story descisions that don't make any sense in the lore.

Wait,.. will blood elf be able to go monk? please say yes. -_-
Clef 28th Apr 2012, 8:55 AM edit delete reply
Clef
I think belfs are a little too femanine (including the males) to be drunken brawlers, heh.
DJ Particle 28th Apr 2012, 5:24 PM edit delete reply
Yes, belfs will be able to be monks. The only 2 races that can't be monks are Goblins and Worgen.
Bloodraptor(Echo Isles) 27th Apr 2012, 1:46 PM edit delete reply
As I saw, Blood Elves will be able to roll as Monks. Blood Elves are fit for the class since they're a normal sized race.

Worgen should be able to roll monks, not gnomes. I mean really, if you're a melee class, there is no logical way you'd want to be the joke race that fails to retake it's city at every turn even with the full support.

I'll be making a Pandaren Monk though, because it's fitting. and the racial "Bouncy" just sounds like a load of fun. ^_^

also the food buff racial is gonna be super sweet! ^_^
Rokas 27th Apr 2012, 4:35 PM edit delete reply
Oh my God, a woogen! Er, I mean, Worgen... <_<
>_>

My Worgen hunter is the only Level 85 I have on the Alliance side... Oh God, why do I have more than one 85? Thank God I stopped playing that game.

Still, Kleeyo and Woogen- WORGEN in bikinis FTW.
Morris 28th Apr 2012, 4:54 AM edit delete reply
What no Warrior, warlock, or Druid boobies? Or rogue boobies?? C'mon, we wanna see all classes boobies!! :D xD
Clef 28th Apr 2012, 8:35 AM edit delete reply
Clef
There's a 'lock there! She's a little short, but still there nonetheless!
Iliya Moroumetz 30th Apr 2012, 3:43 PM edit delete reply
Only Gnome Paladins would bring me back to WoW... that's all I'm saying.
RedLion 8th Oct 2012, 3:21 AM edit delete reply
So...many...WoW babes...

Just started going through the archives after forgetting about this comic for a while,and I still love everything about it.
I know Sara, Kleeyo, and Jyosette, but you got names for the other lovelies there, especially the Worgen? Feline all the way myself, but still a sucker for a decent wolf-girl. =^_^;=
Clef 8th Oct 2012, 5:50 PM edit delete reply
Clef
All the toon names are listed in the "contact me" tab.
RedLion 8th Oct 2012, 9:30 PM edit delete reply
Shows how long it's been since I've been here. Thanks, Clef.
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